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2:48 pm
February 14, 2010


Joey

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Let's say I raise an unopened pot from early position with AK and get one caller. I miss on the flop, fire a pot sized bet and am called. I typically check-fold the turn. I realize this is terribly exploitable at higher stakes, but is this strategy decent for lower stakes? As a side note, I suppose sometimes checking the turn when I have the goods makes this less exploitable?

Now if I get 2 or more callers and I miss the flop, I typically just check-fold to any aggression on the flop.

I don't figure I am getting floated at these low levels, but maybe I'm wrong? I really don't prefer to check the flop when there is only one caller as I like to maintain the aggression. I figure the money I lose on c-betting the missed flops is more than made up for by the pots I take down by being aggressive. Other player's thoughts, advice?

6:36 pm
February 14, 2010


Matt Flynn

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what stakes?


also, consider firing 2/3 pot heads-up when you bet (whether you hit or miss).


fine to give up after one shot usually.

8:07 pm
February 14, 2010


Joey

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I play at $5 stakes. I have tried 2/3 pot bet on the flop but I find I get called more often. If I hit the flop, that's good, but if I don't, a pot sized bet seems to increase my fold equity. Are you suggesting I fire 2/3 pot when I want to get called and pot sized when I don't want a call? Again, I know this is highly exploitable, but with so many players on these stakes I'm not too worried about people paying attention.

9:13 pm
February 14, 2010


Matt Flynn

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Well, yeah, if they truly are clueless, then feel free to c-bet different amounts depending on whether you hit or miss.  In general respect the players with large amounts of hands a bit more as they will tend to be regs and a little better at the game.  Don;t forget that $5 nl is significant money to a fair part of the world.


If 2/3 is getting called too much then pot-sized is better.   I would check back say a fourth of the flops that you miss.  No need to balance much at $5, but c-betting everything is easily exploitable, and this will save you money if you check back flops with two cards Q-9 and check back some flops with flush draws or connector straight draws.  Try it and let me know.  And you have HEM right?

6:32 am
February 15, 2010


WantToLearn

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Joey said:

 Other player's thoughts, advice?


Joey,

I can confirm that at the lowest stakes, a pot sized c-bet has better fold equity than a smaller one.


At least that´s how I remember it from like 3 years ago, but things might have changed.


good luck

10:22 am
February 16, 2010


Joey

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Matt Flynn said:

Well, yeah, if they truly are clueless, then feel free to c-bet different amounts depending on whether you hit or miss.  In general respect the players with large amounts of hands a bit more as they will tend to be regs and a little better at the game.  Don;t forget that $5 nl is significant money to a fair part of the world.


If 2/3 is getting called too much then pot-sized is better.   I would check back say a fourth of the flops that you miss.  No need to balance much at $5, but c-betting everything is easily exploitable, and this will save you money if you check back flops with two cards Q-9 and check back some flops with flush draws or connector straight draws.  Try it and let me know.  And you have HEM right?


Thanks for the advice Matt. I have started just checking back some of the flops that I miss, especially when I feel it may have my opponent. I do indeed have Holdem Manager. Can't recommend it enough!

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