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1:51 pm
June 17, 2009
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Pete
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Post edited 8:53 pm – June 17, 2009 by Pete
Post edited 9:21 pm – June 17, 2009 by Pete
**** Ooops, exercise 
For practice, I thought this would be a great exercise for all of us. This is a topic I'm spending quite a bit of time each day on myself. I'll lay out the stats of a player, and you try to figure out what we can do to exploit their tendencies:
The first one is an extremely tough player:
VP$IP: 17
PFR: 14
3 Bet%: 5
Fold to 3Bet: 44
4 Bet: 6
Fold to 4 Bet: 25
Aggression Flop: 6
Aggression Turn: 3
Aggression River: 3
CB Flop: 81
Fold CB Flop: 64
CB Turn: 29
Fold CB Turn: 45
CB River: 50
Fold CB River: 45
Steal %: 31
Fold to Steal%: 80
WTSD: 26
W$WSD: 60
Alright guys, let's find the holes!
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2:44 pm
June 17, 2009
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charlydj23
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Ok, let's get started.
Imo that' what we could do:
He's a nitty TAG so I'm going to give him credit whe he opens from early and middle possition. I'm supoussing he doesn't open-limps so there's no isolation against him.
He is 3 bettin so low that I will 4 bet only with premiums. One thing I notice is he's calling 50% of 3bets (assuming that call 3bet = 100 – fold3bet – 4bet) and I think this is maybe too high. I would wider a bit my 3 bet range because I think he will be calling with marginal hands.
In the flop I think is good to float for two reason:
He cbets a lot and gives up a lot of turns. I don't know if I'm right but think that 80% of cbet is maybe too high and is exploitable. In addition he cbets few turn so is profitable paying the flop.
Regarding barrelin I'm reading the section that deals with it and I'm not pretty sure. If, as said, when you bet the river is for value or as a bluff (to balance) checking the weak hands and do the same for the turn , if he folds about 50% in each street, does it means that he's going to the river with weak hands or that he's getting to the river with the nuts? I'm likely to think that is the second because he is winnig 60% at showdown so I think firing at least two barrels is profitable.
At last, the blinds. He steals about 30% of the time that it's not much. I would defend my blinds sometimes with broadways and suited connectors. He also folds a lot to steal so would try to get the blinds with almost any hand almost every time.
I hope not being too much wrong.
Regards and apologize for my english
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3:11 pm
June 17, 2009
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Pete
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He cbets a lot and gives up a lot of turns. I don't know if I'm right but think that 80% of cbet is maybe too high and is exploitable. In addition he cbets few turn so is profitable paying the flop."
Do you consider raising the flop since he bets so often or float and try to take it away on the turn? Equal balance? How do the conditions of the game (ex: position) change your decision?
"He's a nitty TAG so I'm going to give him credit whe he opens from early and middle possition. I'm supoussing he doesn't open-limps so there's no isolation against him."
If he opens in mid position, and you have one or two callers before you.. do you consider squeezing? If so, given his range, what types of hands do you squeeze with on the CO, Button? How about AJs? How about AQo? KQo?
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2:31 pm
June 18, 2009
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dresar
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Abut his steal tendencies, 30% is CO, BTN and SB combined right? So I guess his range from the BTN is pretty wide. He also cbet quite a bit so I think we could widen our call range against his BTN steal from the BB and CR flops that seems favorable, no?
Eg Axx could be a candidate.
About squeezing I dont think I want to use the hands Pete suggested because we can easily be dominated by his range from UTG/HJ. I would rather use SC and small pps, sometimes air I guess.
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2:34 pm
June 18, 2009
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dresar
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By the way Pete, very good initiative!! :)
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6:07 pm
June 18, 2009
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Pete
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dresar said:
About squeezing I dont think I want to use the hands Pete suggested because we can easily be dominated by his range from UTG/HJ. I would rather use SC and small pps, sometimes air I guess.
Like yourself, I prefer to squeeze with SC. I'm not a big fan of squeezing with small pps, because if I get called, I'm looking at a real bad situation with usually only 2 cards to help my hand. If I squeeze with KQ.. even if there's a chance of it being dominated.. I can take it down during the squeeze or if the flop comes something like 882, I push it and get called.. I might have 6 outs if he still has a pocket pair.
The fact that I didn't get 4 bet (depending on player) usually rules out AA-QQ, AK against most of the players I play again. Again, still experimenting. To me, hands like AJs, KQ, AQ are not good enough to call.. so I'm either squeezing or dumping them.
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4:05 am
June 20, 2009
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tom12481
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Pete said:
Like yourself, I prefer to squeeze with SC. I'm not a big fan of squeezing with small pps, because if I get called, I'm looking at a real bad situation with usually only 2 cards to help my hand. If I squeeze with KQ.. even if there's a chance of it being dominated.. I can take it down during the squeeze or if the flop comes something like 882, I push it and get called.. I might have 6 outs if he still has a pocket pair.
The fact that I didn't get 4 bet (depending on player) usually rules out AA-QQ, AK against most of the players I play again. Again, still experimenting. To me, hands like AJs, KQ, AQ are not good enough to call.. so I'm either squeezing or dumping them.
No one has mentioned the type of player who cold called villans PFR.
As for squeezing AJs,KQ,(maybe AQ is ok). I think this is dangerous vs this villans calling 3bet range. I feel we are dominated to often. Im looking to squeez with air or big pairs, IMO
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1:38 am
June 21, 2009
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Pete
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I'm still on the fence with this one. Again, I prefer suited connectors or junk when squeezing, however, if I do end up with AJs, KQ, AQ.. I don't necessarily want to fold it (even though the issue of domination). Here are some thoughts:
- As mentioned above, unless opponent is fairly sneaky, I would expect a 4 bet with AA-QQ, AK
- With the above being true, it's less like for me to be up against a domainted hand (possibly but less likely)
- Ok, after looking at the 4 bet numbers.. I'm lost. haha
I still stand by my thought about small pp not necessarily being the best for squeezing, because when called.. I have only 2 cards to help. If I squeeze with AJ and the flop comes ragged low, I can at least shove and *possibly* have 6 outs to protect me if called.
Help! Should I be tossing these big cards out against this type of opponent?
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12:58 am
June 22, 2009
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Tackleberry
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I think the question is too broad – it depends on the exact position, stats of the cold-caller, table-dynamics, your image etc.
I guess making an example would be the best to start a real discussion … in general I don´t like squeezing with KQ, AQ, AJ against such a player.
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