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is this a fish turn cbet?

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5:56 pm
July 4, 2009


tagger

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?4438129

hi,guys,need some advice of this hand,how would you play it?

i have just 17 handhistroy of this villian,35 6

thanks!

7:03 pm
July 6, 2009


jz1014

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posts 32

Do you have any reads on the villain? Anything at all would be helpful here.

Without reads though versus an unknown, I think I would play it the same way. The turn sucks for us since it makes our straight outs more or less worthless, but since you are OOP I think you have to bet it again. The river also isnt the greatest of cards here, since it puts alot of full houses on board. Still, we only have a half pot bet left, so I think stacking off is pretty much mandatory. The question is do we get a call from a worse hand here? Against some players you would be better off check calling the river (try to induce the bluff), but since we don't have reads I think leading is fine. Really though, reads can change this a lot, so if you have any then please share!

9:20 am
July 13, 2009


Hitman

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posts 62

I liike shoving the river in this spot with no reads… to call the turn his most likely holding I think is a naked K.  Followed by 2 pair or a draw. 

If he was chasing a (bigger) flush draw or he boated up, shoving or checking will yield the same results, you'll get all in and get stacked, because he'll bet those when you check to him unless he's a super nit or misclicks. 

If he's got the naked K however he may well check that behind on this scary a board.  2 pair like QJ he's checking behind mostly.  But if he was willing to call the turn with these he very well might pay off with them when you bet… especially the straight. 

I think, without any reads, it's more likely he's paying us than betting for us when we're ahead here.   

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