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3:38 am
December 20, 2009


livegame101

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Post edited 11:44 am – December 20, 2009 by livegame101
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Post edited 11:47 am – December 20, 2009 by livegame101

Please bare with me as I am still a little shaky on this concept.  I want to show an example of a 50nlfr hand ( yes I realize this is a 6-max 1-2 book).

$0.25/$0.50  No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by http://weaktight.com/

Stacks:
UTG  $30.60
UTG+1  $29.80
MP1  $24.60
MP2  $32
CO  $8.50
Hero  $52.25
SB  $52.01
BB  $50

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.50, MP1 folds

Flop:   ($7.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG calls $5.25

So if I did this right my SPR  preflop is 4. So, should I feel confident with betting and going with my hand here vs most player types?  This particular player is a very loose passive player. What is this board was a67 or k67? Does SPR rule in this spot and we just fist pump get it in?

8:46 am
December 20, 2009


Matt Flynn

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Hi livegame,

SPR of 4 heads-up with an overpair is pretty much an autocommit in an aggressive high stakes game or in your case here against a loose passive player UNLESS he raises you.  ("Very loose passive" player should mean he rarely raises and usually has a monster when he does.  If you mean something different, than my response may change.)

This guy is willing to stack off with a wide range, so your queens are good most of the time.  Of course, you will lose sometimes too.  But it is a fairly big mistake not to push hard against such a player.  He is the dead money in the game, and this is how you extract that dead money where other players might not.

Matt

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January 31, 2010


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To determine if this is a "very loose passive" player, what stats would you use?  How high or low do those stats need to be in this example in order to be willing to fold the hand?

In PNL, I think the target SPR for a big overpair is 5.5, and is as high as 10 against a loose player, and as low as 3 or 4 for a tight player.  I do not think there were guidelines given for when a player is "passive" (I am not sure though).

Could you recommend some actual stats and ranges for those stats for defining when a player is tight or loose, and passive or aggressive?  And then use those ranges to give adjusted recommendations for SPR?

Target SPR for big overpair is [3.5  5.5  10] (low, medium, and high)
Target SPR for big TPTK is [2  4.5  5.7] (low, medium, and high)

So what stat ranges do we want ("loose" stats and "passive" stats) in order to use the two medium numbers for SPR?  What stat ranges do we want in order to use the two low numbers for SPR?  And what stat ranges do we want in order to use the two high numbers for SPR?
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