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8:01 pm
May 11, 2009
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cyberprime
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I would buy vol. 2 faster than a California stop – but, I gotta say I'm pretty ambivalent so far about this 1/2 6max ebook.
I'll tell you why.
The poker internet is presently saturated with NL 6max. I have access to (and have watched) hundreds of hours of 6max video on my free dueces cracked, cardrunners and stox accounts.
Honestly… all the videos are pretty much the same. Here is a quick synopsis of almost every hand on almost every one of those videos: 3bet, value bet, value bet, thin value bet river, "uh oh, got checkraised- do I have odds to call?".
In addition to the videos there are now ebooks coming out priced as high as $1850 that imo aren't really adding anything beyond what's already found in the videos.
Ed is possibly tops in the field for teaching poker concepts. I have no fear that this book won't be of high quality and value. What I want (need) to know is, what about Your ebook is different. After the great Proffesional No-limit Vol.1, I expect big things and fantastic insight from Matt and Sunny. Can You give us a heads-up on what to expect?
And please, something original. I was very unimpressed by the exerpts posted on Ed's blog. They seemed like filler material or Card Player articles rather than cutting edge insight.
My best to You,
Cyber
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12:36 am
May 16, 2009
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cyberprime
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Thanks for putting up the new exerpt about unbalanced lines. It's got me quite a bit more interested.
I realize I may have sounded a bit harsh in calling the previous excerpts 'filler'. It wasn't my intent to be provoking. I'm sure they were fine examples illustrating points that you've made in the book and thus worthy of being included. They are just a tad bit boring without surrounding context is all… imo.
After thinking it over, I will definately be pre-ordering your ebook. I am completely happy to take it on faith that you three authors will provide superb quality and content.
best to you,
cyberprime
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3:46 pm
June 2, 2009
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Ed Miller
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Hey cyberprime,
Glad you liked the line balancing excerpt. To answer your question, this book hits all the major, important points about how to beat a $1-$2 6-max NL game. Everyone is going to be different and have different strengths and weaknesses. Some people will read an excerpt and think, "Already know this," and some will think, "Wow, that's great."
If you've watched a lot of training videos, then no doubt you'll feel like some of the content is old hat to you. But the book will still definitely offer something new. And beyond that, I think people who watch training videos and then read the book will find that they work together to speed the learning process and improve retention and ultimately winrates.
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9:20 am
June 8, 2009
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UglyGrump
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Post edited 4:20 pm – June 8, 2009 by UglyGrump
If you've watched a lot of training videos, then no doubt you'll feel like some of the content is old hat to you. But the book will still definitely offer something new. And beyond that, I think people who watch training videos and then read the book will find that they work together to speed the learning process and improve retention and ultimately winrates.
The problem with Stoxpoker is there are so many videos in the archive, and new ones every day, it's hard to know where to start!
OK, maybe 'problem' isn't a great way to describe that particular 'issue' – and the stoxpoker 'courses' have certainly helped a lot. But is there any chance that you could create a stoxpoker series linked to the SSNLH, or create a SSNLH 'course' using material that you and the other coaches have already produced?
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9:54 am
June 8, 2009
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Ed Miller
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UglyGrump said:
Post edited 9:20 am – June 8, 2009 by UglyGrump
If you've watched a lot of training videos, then no doubt you'll feel like some of the content is old hat to you. But the book will still definitely offer something new. And beyond that, I think people who watch training videos and then read the book will find that they work together to speed the learning process and improve retention and ultimately winrates.
The problem with Stoxpoker is there are so many videos in the archive, and new ones every day, it's hard to know where to start!
OK, maybe 'problem' isn't a great way to describe that particular 'issue' – and the stoxpoker 'courses' have certainly helped a lot. But is there any chance that you could create a stoxpoker series linked to the SSNLH, or create a SSNLH 'course' using material that you and the other coaches have already produced?
That's an interesting idea. I may try to put something like that together. Thanks.
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8:17 pm
June 8, 2009
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wanderingthrough
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I'm curious if its worth it for someone of a lower level of skill. I know how to calc outs/hand odds/pot odds, read the board, etc… but am still a consistently losing player. I noticed in your posts you said this was aimed at transforming a TAG from level 11-21 or something like that and outlined what those stages were. Do you think it'll do anything for someone still somewhere in the single digits on that scale of yours or will the subtleties be lost?
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9:27 pm
June 8, 2009
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Ed Miller
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wanderingthrough said:
I'm curious if its worth it for someone of a lower level of skill. I know how to calc outs/hand odds/pot odds, read the board, etc… but am still a consistently losing player. I noticed in your posts you said this was aimed at transforming a TAG from level 11-21 or something like that and outlined what those stages were. Do you think it'll do anything for someone still somewhere in the single digits on that scale of yours or will the subtleties be lost?
I think the book will be extremely eye-opening for a player who isn't quite yet a winner. Tackling some of the concepts will probably be too difficult the first time through, but other concepts (the blind stealing stuff and the barrelling and value betting basics come to mind) you can probably put to use immediately.
I would also recommend reading our first book Professional No-Limit Hold'em which is focused on explaining a few core, very important concepts in great depth.
And the great thing about this book (or really any poker book) is that you can read through it multiple times, and the stuff that was too advanced the first time through will be just right on the third or fourth read.
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5:04 pm
June 9, 2009
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Pete
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But is there any chance that you could create a stoxpoker series linked to the SSNLH, or create a SSNLH 'course' using material that you and the other coaches have already produced?
That's an interesting idea. I may try to put something like that together. Thanks.
I was thinking the exact same thing today. It would be nice to see which videos best demonstrates some of the concepts you're discussing in the book.
Maybe you guys will decide to do an add-on package such as custom videos to demonstrate the concepts or coaching groups.
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